We welcome media mind Seth Shepherd on the show to talk with us about narrative, systemic analysis, realism, and the ways in which games end for the player but do not end for the character!

Seth on Twitter: @asapsunscreen

Trevor Strunk on Twitter: @hegelbon

No Cartridge Intern on Twitter: @NoCartridge

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Production by Julian Crocamo: Twitter/Band

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